Monday, October 6, 2014

Jodi Arias trial update: Oct. 6, 2014 (Twitter, Videos)

It's Oct. 6, 2014, and Jodi Arias returns to the Maricopa County courthouse as jury selection for her penalty phase retrial continues.

Jodi Arias poses

You can follow along with the latest news coming from the courtroom here. 

Last week, hundreds of potential jurors were eliminated from the selection process while those who remained were given a questionnaire to complete. The remaining 169 potential jurors will endure a second round of in-depth questioning as the court hopes to find 12 impartial jurors to determine whether Jodi Arias should receive the death penalty.

Jury selection may be complicated due to the tremendous media coverage the first trial received.

Jodi Arias Twitter Updates

Saturday, October 4, 2014

Jodi Arias latest news update: Trial, penalty phase, and new look (videos)

There's plenty going on in the Jodi Arias trial. Jodi has returned to court for the retrial of the penalty portion of her first-degree murder conviction. Arias was convicted on May 8, 2013, for the June 4, 2008, stabbing and shooting death of her lover Travis Alexander.

On May 16, 2013, the Jodi Arias trial entered the penalty phase. The jury had already determined that Arias murdered Travis Alexander in a cruel, heinous, and depraved manner. The jury would then determine whether Arias should serve a sentence of life in prison or receive the death penalty for her crimes.
After hearing accounts of abuse at Alexander's hands, impact testimony from Alexander's loved ones, and testimony from Jodi Arias herself, the jury deadlocked on Arias' sentencing. Arias portrayed herself as a domestic abuse survivor and spoke of the positive things she could do in jail if given a
Jodi Arias speaks to the jury
life sentence. She also stated that receiving the death penalty would be extremely painful for her family members, including her younger siblings. The penalty phase concluded on May 23, 2010, after eight jurors voted for Arias to receive the death penalty and four ruled in favor of a life sentence.

On Monday, Sept. 29, 2014, the Jodi Arias penalty phase began. The first week was spent screening jurors in hopes of finding an impartial jury to seat. Due to the media frenzy that surrounded the first trial, many jurors have been eliminated. Some have questioned if it will be possible to find an impartial jury.

The Arizona Republic reported on Sept. 29, that jurors were being dismissed in droves. According to the report, prospective jurors were given a questionnaire that was used to determine impartiality to Arias and the case. The report stated that 1/3 of 300 or 167 potential jurors were quickly eliminated.

Jodi Arias also arrived in court sporting a shorter hairstyle. You may see a Twitter photo shared by user HodiH081 below.

If you noticed that Jodi Arias is wearing new glasses you're correct. In fact, on Sept. 14, 2014, she auctioned her glasses on her official website:, then donated $980 to an Arizona food bank charity: St. Mary's Food Bank. Arias sells her artwork online and has donated some of the proceeds to charity. There is no doubt that Arias continues to do whatever she can to strive to the jury her life should be spared and that she is still a valuable member of society that can do good for others.

Jodi Arias in court Oct. 1, 2014

Photo from Jodi
There has been great debate over whether Arias should be allowed to donate money to charities and whether non-profit groups should accept money from convicted murderers. What is your opinion? Do you think St. Mary's Food Bank should have rejected nearly $1,000 because it came from Arias?

In addition to selling artwork, prints, and glasses, Jodi Arias has a Twitter account run by a friend.

On Oct. 1, 2014, Jodi Arias released a tweet regarding jury selection. She stated that she felt like a lamb going to the slaughter.

The choice of comparison is rather interesting and some might say insensitive as she was found guilty of slaughtering Travis Alexander and nearly beheaded him. Jodi Arias stabbed Travis Alexander 27 times and slashed his jugular vein, windpipe, and carotid artery. She also stabbed him in the heart.

Reporter Jen Wood has been in the courtroom every day, and appeared on HLN's Jane Velez-Mitchell to describe her experiences first hand. Interesting is that she stated Arias arrived in court wearing pigtails. Additionally, she said that when the excluded jurors left the courtroom, they spoke to media and said they believed Arias should be put to death. You may see video from JVM below.

Additionally, Jodi Arias' defense for the first trial has cost Arizona tax payers a whopping $2, 589, 890. This is not counting the cost of the penalty phase retrial. Needless to say, many tax payers are outraged at the substantial cost spent on Jodi Arias.

In other recent news, Jodi Arias' attorneys filed a motion on Wed. Oct. 1, 2014, to have the death penalty taken off the table due to a number of allegations of misconduct. Included in the motion were complaints that the wife of key witness Detective Flores released sensitive information on Twitter.  The defense also alleges that Prosecutor Juan Martinez repeatedly engaged in misconduct including harassing witnesses and withholding pertinent information from lawyers. While it is unclear if the motion will impact the jury or successfully result in the death penalty's removal before the penalty trial b

Jodi Arias Motion to Dismiss Oct 1st Jodi Arias is Innocent Com

egins testimony, it may be a crucial aspect of any future appeals.

You may read the motion to dismiss below.

Friday, October 3, 2014

Man charged with criminal sexual conduct after 6-year old contracts STD

A 33-year-old Michigan man has been charged with criminal sexual conduct which includes the act of penetration after a 6-year-old girl was diagnosed with an STD.

The man, Brian Lee Gillespie, faces life in prison if convicted. Authorities believe the girl was assaulted from January to September 2013. The relationship between Gillespie and the child has not been made public, but the child's mother is said to be cooperating with authorities.

Gillespie is in jail and is currently held on $200,000 bond. He is scheduled for a court appearance on Oct. 9, 2014.

Brian Lee Gillespie

Jane Velez Mitchell Transcripts: The Jodi Arias Story (videos)

This is the transcript from the Jane Velez Mitchell show that aired on HLN on Sept. 26, 2014. As the show preceded the retrial of the Jodi Arias penalty phase, the episode focused solely on the case and conviction of Arias for first-degree murder in the death of Travis Alexander.

A jury found Arias guilty of murder but could not agree if she should be put to death for the crime. A new jury will be seated to hear facts regarding the penalty and sentencing portion. Should a jury fail to determine a sentence, the death penalty will be taken off the table and the judge will determine sentencing.

Jodi Arias faces the death penalty, life in prison, or the possibility of parole after 28 years.

Here is the transcript along with relevant videos from the case, and episode.

Secret Lives: The Jodi Arias Story
Aired September 26, 2014 - 19:00   ET
JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST (voice-over): Las Vegas. Glitter and glitz. It`s where they met. Jodi Arias, a waitress/aspiring photographer trolling for a career, crosses paths at a business convention with Travis Alexander. Travis instantly took a shine to the pretty platinum blonde who
Jodi Arias before the murder of Travis Alexander
walked into his eye line.

(on camera): There it was, the most basic building block of a secret: chemistry, sexual chemistry.

JODI ARIAS, CONVICTED OF MURDER: He leaned in very close as if he wanted to kiss me. And he`s licking his lips, and he was staring at my lips like he wanted to kiss me, but he didn`t. He licked his lips and said, "I wish you didn`t have a boyfriend."


VELEZ-MITCHELL (voice-over): Travis was a Mormon, and Mormons aren`t supposed to have sex outside marriage. As Jodi and Travis`s relationship blossomed, the outside world saw a G-rated courtship, but behind closed doors...

TRAVIS ALEXANDER, MURDER VICTIM (via phone): I`m going to tie you to a tree and put it in your (EXPLETIVE DELETED) all the way.

ARIAS (via phone): Oh, my gosh. That is so debasing. I like it.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Jodi even recorded their phone sex.

ALEXANDER: Honey, the pictures I`m going to take are so hot.

ARIAS: What are we going to do with ourselves? We are just horny toads.

ALEXANDER: Like let me tell you about some of the pictures I`m going to take. One of them is going to be me laying on my back. (EXPLETIVE

DELETED), you know, sticking straight out.

ARIAS: You have a good looking (EXPLETIVE DELETED), baby. I just want to let you know.


VELEZ-MITCHELL (on camera): Secrets are about a handful of human activities and at the very top of the list, sex. It`s where we tend to keep the greatest number of secrets and the most shameful secrets. Jodi and Travis were no exception.


ALEXANDER: The way you moan, baby, it sounds like -- sounds like you`re this 12-year-old girl having her first orgasm. It`s so hot.

ARIAS: You`re bad. You make me feel so dirty.

ALEXANDER: You are dirty, baby.

BETH KARAS, HLN LEGAL CORRESPONDENT: To hear his voice in the courtroom was so eerie. And then, to hear what he had to say when he was talking about his fantasies, some of them very violent; having the sex over the phone with her and we hear them both climaxing, it was just -- it was a high point and a low point in the trial.

SELIN DARKALSTANIAN, HLN PRODUCER: Some of the jury members are looking down. They`re embarrassed. You can tell. They`re trying not --

avoiding eye contact with anybody in the courtroom. Others are staring directly as Jodi, judging her as the sex tape is playing.

Meanwhile, Jodi is on the stand, hair covering her entire face. You can`t even see her. She uses her hair as a shield in these really embarrassing moments in court.

VELEZ-MITCHELL (voice-over): Secrets can be murder. In this case toxic secrets that exploded in death on June 4, 2008.

Jodi Arias killed Travis Alexander by stabbing him 29 times, slitting his throat ear to ear, and shooting him in the face. All this happened in the confines of his master bedroom and bathroom, after Jodi and Travis had indulged in an afternoon of kinky sex and naked photo sessions.

KIRK NURMI, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Was it your idea to pose for that picture, or did Travis suggest that that take place?

ARIAS (on camera): He suggested all the poses.

NURMI: Is that something you really wanted to do?

ARIAS: That was not my favorite part of the day, no. I didn`t want to do that. I mean, I didn`t disagree. He wanted to get a picture of us having sex without somebody holding the camera.

NURMI: But it would be fair to say that he was directing you what to do and how to pose?


NURMI: Why did you pose in these positions for him?

ARIAS: He asked me to.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: So how and why did sex lead to death? What are the secrets that exploded in violence? And who is ultimately responsible?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have pictures of you in Travis`s bedroom.

ARIAS: Are you sure it`s me? Because I was not there.



ARIAS: He was grabbing at my clothes. He was trying to get on top of me. I don`t know where the gun was at that point. I don`t know if it got knocked out of my hands or I dropped it.

I broke away from him. And as soon as I broke -- the moment I broke away, that`s when he threatened my life. I have no clear memories after that.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Jodi claims she was in a fog when she left Travis`s house after the killing. Nevertheless, she carried with her a new set of secrets. No one knew what she had done.

ARIAS: I don`t remember bringing the gun with me, but I remember throwing it.

NURMI: Throwing it where?

ARIAS: In the desert.

SHANNA HOGAN, AUTHOR, "PICTURE PERFECT": She`s terrified. She`s covered in Travis`s blood, and pulls over in the desert and starts to concoct her story, starts to cover up her tracks. She washes her hand of blood. She throws away the gun. And then she starts making phone calls, immediately coming up with this cover story that she maintains for the next month.

VELEZ-MITCHELL (voice-over): In her desperate attempt to keep secret her starring role in Travis`s extraordinarily violent killing, Jodi decided she would call Travis and leave him a voice mail.

ARIAS (via phone): I know Leslie called you, so I already talked to her so you can call her back if you want but it`s not necessary. My phone died, so I wasn`t getting back to anybody.

And what else? Oh, and I drove 100 miles in the wrong direction. Over 100 miles, thank you very much. So yes, remember New Mexico? It was a lot like that, only you weren`t here to prevent me from going into the three digits, so fun, fun. Tell you all about that later.

Also when we were talking about -- when we were talking about your upcoming travels my way, I was looking at the May calendar, duh. So I`m all confused. But Heather and I are going to see "Othello" on July 1, and we would love for you to accompany us.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: An invitation to see Shakespeare, a stunning testament to the lengths Jodi would go to keep a damaging secret. Her lighthearted tone a stark contrast to the blood-soaked crime scene.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A friend of ours is dead in his bedroom, and we haven`t heard from him for a while. We think he`s dead. His roommate just went in there and said there`s lots of blood.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Has he been threatened by anyone recently?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. He has. He has an ex-girlfriend that`s been bothering him, and following him, slashing tires and things like that.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And do you know the ex-girlfriend`s name?


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Jodi Arias, washing the blood off her hands in the middle of the desert, was carrying perhaps the most toxic secret you can ever keep. She had just killed a man.

Jodi began creating an elaborate smokescreen by canoodling with another man. She headed from the crime scene in Arizona into Utah and met up with this man, Ryan Burns.

NURMI: Did you kiss Mr. Burns?

ARIAS (on camera): Eventually, we kissed. We were watching some like scary movie, I guess, and he was laying next to me. We weren`t like really touching, but we were kind of laying next to each other.

And I just -- I don`t know. I felt -- I felt safe right there, and I figured like if I don`t kiss him at all, I don`t know.

I don`t know. I guess I just wanted to seem like normal. I wanted to seem like I was OK, like things were OK, like I didn`t just do what I just did.

VELEZ-MITCHELL (on camera): Welcome to our Secrets Lab. Joining me noted psychologists Jeff Gardere and Robi Ludwig.

Dr. Jeff...


VELEZ-MITCHELL: ... she goes from killing Travis Alexander to canoodling in short order, within hours, with another guy, making out with another guy. What does that tell you about Jodi Arias`s mentality?

GARDERE: Well, I think this is a young woman who does have a personality disorder. And as we see with many women with these sorts of issues, they learn to use sex as a tool. She was doing that to cover up her tracks.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Dr. Robi Ludwig, what could the symbolic significance be of her killing Travis Alexander and then going and immediately making out with this other guy, Ryan Burns?

ROBI LUDWIG, PSYCHOLOGIST: I don`t know if she really felt like a person unless she was sexually engaged with another. So "as long as I`m sexually engaged, I exist, I matter, I`m alive." I don`t know if Jodi can feel like a person unless she was in that kind of relationship.

ARIAS: If I`m found guilty, I don`t have a life. I`m not guilty. I didn`t hurt Travis. If I hurt Travis, if I killed Travis. I would beg for the death penalty.


ESTEBAN FLORES, DETECTIVE (via phone): It was around April that you last saw him, right?

ARIAS (via phone): Early April.

FLORES: You haven`t been back in town since then?

ARIAS: No, I haven`t. I talked to...

FLORES: OK. I thought you mentioned you had been back in town like for a week or a couple of days.

ARIAS: Like I`ve been thinking about going there, so yes, I`ve been definitely planning on heading down there.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But you haven`t physically been here since you left?

ARIAS: Since I moved, no I haven`t.

VELEZ-MITCHELL (voice-over): Within hours of Travis`s friends finding his decomposing body stuffed in his shower, Jodi was reaching out to cops and insisting she was nowhere near the crime scene.

FLORES (on camera): Were you at Travis`s house on Wednesday?

ARIAS (on camera): Absolutely not. I was nowhere near Mesa.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And then, when confronted with a bloody hand print and other undeniable evidence that she was with Travis on the day of the killing, Jodi told a second whopper: that two masked ninjas invaded Travis`s home and she miraculously escaped.

ARIAS: They didn`t say a lot. They were white Americans, from what I could tell. They had -- what do you call those things? They`re like beanies, but they cover your whole face. They didn`t discuss much. They just argued.

FLORES: About what?

ARIAS: About whether or not to kill me.

FLORES: For what reason?

ARIAS: Because I`m a witness.

FLORES: A witness of what

ARIAS: Of Travis...

FLORES: Of Travis`s murder?

ARIAS: Yes. But I didn`t really witness it. I didn`t see much.

VELEZ-MITCHELL (on camera): When Jodi finally took the stand and admitted she killed Travis Alexander, that revelation came with a stunning avalanche of sexual secrets that would rivet the nation.

ARIAS: He wanted me to dress up in a schoolgirl outfit with braids.

We had sex in the bathtub and then again on his bed. With the candy. He wanted to put the Tootsie Pop inside of me. He wanted me to put Pop Rocks in my mouth while he -- while I gave him oral sex.

NURMI: And did you do that?


VELEZ-MITCHELL (voice-over): Jodi described a sexually degrading relationship that crossed the line into sadomasochism.

NURMI: You describe the -- your wrist being bound in a noose-like manner, is that correct?

ARIAS: That`s correct.

NURMI: OK. Do you know how many inches or feet of rope it took in order to -- in order to have your -- these nooses around your hands?

ARIAS: No. I let Travis handle that.

KARAS: Jodi Arias and her attorneys drew on anything negative they could find in Travis Alexander`s background and just threw it all in to say that he was not the person he portrayed to the public, that he had a deviant and a violent side to him.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: But the prosecutor countered with stunning evidence of Jodi`s secret sexual proclivities.

MARTINEZ: This is you sending him this text message, right?


MARTINEZ: And in it, you say, "If you`re a lucky boy and you promise to give me a good, well-deserved spanking," and then you also say, "maybe you can give my (EXPLETIVE DELETED) a too-much-needed (EXPLETIVE DELETED), too. Kidding. Correct?


VELEZ-MITCHELL: But Jodi`s ace was the claim that enraged Travis`s family and brought them to tears. Was it Travis`s darkest secret, or Jodi`s most vicious lie against the man no longer here to defend himself?

ARIAS: I didn`t want to talk about his issues in the text messages.

NURMI: What do you mean his issues?

ARIAS: His -- his sexual attraction to children.


NURMI: Did you kill Travis Alexander on June 4, 2008?

ARIAS: Yes, I did.


ARIAS: The simple answer is he attacked me. And I defended myself.

VELEZ-MITCHELL (on camera): Travis Alexander, a successful businessman and motivational speaker, shot and stabbed to death by his lover, Jodi Arias. But Jodi, in a bid to spare herself the death penalty, turned the tables and tried to put the victim on trial. Jodi said Travis
led a secret life. A double life.

JENNIFER WILLMOTT, JODI`S DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Behind the smiles in these photographs there was a whole other reality for Jodi. A reality that Travis created. Because in reality Jodi was Travis`s dirty little secret.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: While the world saw Travis Alexander as an upstanding Mormon, chaste; an elder, in fact, in the Mormon Church, Jodi Arias painted him as a sexual deviant, a man who degraded her sexually over and over again.

ARIAS: He wanted to drive up to the home. He wanted to get out of the car, have me come out of the house, give him oral sex. And he wanted to (EXPLETIVE DELETED) right on my face and then get back in his car and drive away without saying a single word.

VELEZ-MITCHELL (voice-over): Smiling photos show Travis and Jodi after he baptized her into the Mormon Church. But Jodi claims right after Travis pressured her into submitting to anal sex, convincing her that the Mormon law of chastity only banned vaginal sex before marriage.

NURMI: You weren`t to engage in premarital sex. Your takeaway of that was penile-vaginal intercourse. Is that accurate?

ARIAS: I considered other forms of sex, sex. But after gaining a sort of clarification from Travis and how he explained it, then I came to understand that vaginal sex was the ultimate, like, only place to not go.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Jodi`s attorney showed photos of panties and a T- shirt Jodi claimed Travis made her wear that referred to Jodi as Travis`s property.

ARIAS: Beneath that was a shirt that he had been joking about getting me for some months or weeks, maybe. It was over a month.

NURMI: Can you describe it for us?

ARIAS: Yes. It`s the one that was in the pictures of Travis Alexander`s, the pink shorts, which I didn`t see his name on the back at first. I just picked them up, and I thought they were cute.

ARIAS (on camera): Welcome back to our Secrets Lab. This trial really pulled back the curtain on what you might call a very common secret, kinky sex. What is sadomasochism and why do both men and women find pleasure in it? Starting with Dr. Jeff.

GARDERE: Well, when we look at the person who is sadistic, that`s the one who wants to give the pain. The masochist is the one who wants to receive it. So now you can have a perfect union if you have two consenting adults, because it takes the sex to another level. This is what they need
in order to get the final sexual gratification.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now Dr. Robi, she tried to take that S&M and the dominance and submission games that they played and make the leap that that was somehow abusive. But there`s a big difference playing these games in the bedroom, working out your kinks as it were. It has nothing to do with being abused.

LUDWIG: Right. But if you have someone who`s not healthy, it may not be fine. In an ideal sadomasochism kind of situation, people have this feeling that they forget themselves, which is part of the pleasure. It`s very cathartic. They`re trying on a different role that they don`t get to
experience in the real world. And that`s part of what makes it so sexy for them.

VELEZ-MITCHELL (voice-over): As evidence mounted that Jodi was into the kinky sex and encouraged it, Jodi countered with a stunning claim against Travis, a claim that infuriated the victim`s family. It involved Travis and young boys.

ARIAS: I walked in, and Travis was on the bed masturbating. And I got really embarrassed, even though we`d been intimate more times than I

could count. It was just kind of awkward walking in on him like that.

And I was headed towards the dresser when I stopped and was trying to think of something funny or witty to say, like, "Do you need my help" or

something. He started grabbing at something on the bed. And I realized there were papers. And as he was grabbing the papers, one -- one kind of

went sailing off the bed and it fell. And that pattern of paper falls, and it landed face up near my feet. And it was a photograph.

NURMI: What was in the photograph? What was the photograph of?

ARIAS: It was a picture of a little, little boy.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Was Jodi innocently unleashing the darkest secret she knew about the lover she killed in self-defense? Or was Jodi lying through her teeth with a hideous story to protect the secret truth of why, the real reason she killed Travis Alexander?

ARIAS: I grabbed the gun. I ran out of the closet. He was chasing me. I didn`t mean to shoot him or anything. I didn`t even think I was holding the trigger.



JODI ARIAS, CONVICTED OF TRAVIS ALEXANDER`S MURDER: I would be shaking in my boots right now if I had to answer to God for such a heinous crime but I`m grateful that this is one thing that I will never have to answer to.


JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HLN HOST: Of all the secrets that spilled out in the Jodi Arias murder trial perhaps the most jaw-dropping involved the elaborate murder plot prosecutors say Jodi devised.


BETH KARAS, HLN LEGAL CORRESPONDENT: Just a week before Travis Alexander was killed a burglary was reported at Jodi Arias` grandparents' home where she lived in Yreka, California -- a thousand miles away from Travis Alexander. One of several guns, a hand gun, was stolen from her grandfather a .25 caliber handgun. So this was reported and investigated, no one is ever arrested.

ESTEBAN FLORES, POLICE DETECTIVE: You report a gun stolen -- .25 auto. This happens to be the same caliber as the weapon used to kill him.

SHANNA HOGAN, AUTHOR, "PICTURE PERFECT": Jodi is confronted with this in the interrogation room and she still denies it and still is just acting like nothing happened and then so cheery and normal that she actually she does a hand stand after, you know, he leaves the room.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Late in the trial the world suddenly got to see this bizarre behavior.


ARIAS: He knows my need


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Jodi singing and doing a hand stand in the interrogation room minutes before she`s arrested. But this astounding tape remained a secret from the jury.

In spite of Jodi`s bizarre behavior police were far more concerned with why she killed Travis Alexander and investigators thought they knew the reason why -- jealousy.


FLORES: Continuing to lie is not going help you.

ARIAS: Admitting to something I didn`t do won`t help me earth. Ok, let`s say for a second that I did. And I say I did it. I mean --

FLORES: The motive is there -- the jealousy issue.

ARIAS: But I wasn`t -- I wouldn`t even say it was jealous. I mean there may have been some jealousy there but I think if anyone --

FLORES: Then what is it? What caused this?

ARIAS: I think if, you know, if anyone maybe Travis was jealous, but --

FLORES: Obsessed is the word that they used. That`s the word I hear from everybody. "Fatal attraction" -- I don`t know how many times I`ve heard that.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Please be seated the record will show the presence of the jury.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: On the witness stand Jodi insisted she wasn`t fueled by jealousy over Travis taking another woman on vacation with him to Cancun.


KIRK NURMI, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: When you saw this picture of Marie Hall, and he says this is going to be my future wife, are you jealous?

ARIAS: I didn`t feel jealous. He didn`t say this is going to be my future wife. He just said this is a girl he`s interested in. But when he began to talk about her, I can`t say it was jealousy. It was kind of bittersweet because I knew that I wasn`t going marry him but I still had feelings for him and I knew I needed to move on and I knew our relationship was unhealthy.

So I still had feelings for him but it`s more like bittersweet because I still have a desire for him to be happy as well as me to be happy.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Welcome back to our "Secrets Lab". Let`s talk with our experts about jealousy and rage. You know there`s an old saying "Oh, if I can`t have him nobody else can." Jealousy is one of the most fundamental human emotions. Why is it at the heart of this case, Dr. Jeff?

DR. JEFF GARDERE, CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST: She`s thinking, ok, so you are treating me like dirt, but now not only you`re treating me like dirt, but now you`re kicking me to the side. I`m accepting all of this because I want something from you. I`m dependent. I`m allowing you to do all these things to me because I want to be with you. And now I don`t even get the payoff.

And so it`s about the rage. She took it for so long.

ROBI LUDWIG, PSYCHIATRIST: I think she saw Travis as a prize. This was a man who is going to save her. She converted for him. She really felt that he was something special.

So imagine thinking you`re doing everything within your power to win this prize and then this prize thinks somebody else is better than you?

That`s a real assault to the ego. And I don`t think that Jodi could handle that.

GARDERE: And I think with her disordered mind, personality disordered mind, that`s when the rage was just, she just could not control it. So even if she did kill him out of self-defense, even that was overkill. The fact that she just went completely off is pathological in itself because she could have left a long time ago.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Jodi used the lies to hide the secret truth of what happened between her and Travis in that bedroom and bathroom. But she also another tool and astounding claim that she went into a "fog" and doesn`t remember stabbing Travis Alexander 29 times.


ARIAS: Most of the day was an entire blank and little pieces have come back but not very many. When I sort of came out of the fog I realized oh, crap something bad had happened and I was scared to call any authority at that point.

I really don`t know the answer as to why I blacked out or have memory gaps much of that day.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Would this fog be a get out of jail free card or would jurors just assume Jodi Arias was lying yet again?


JUAN MARTINEZ, PROSECUTOR: Did you lie to the detective, yes or no?


MARTINEZ: And did you lie to him on two occasions?

ARIAS: More than two, yes.

MARTINEZ: Did you lie to people in Utah?

ARIAS: Yes, everyone.




NURMI: Did you kill Travis Alexander on June 4th, 2008?

ARIAS: Yes, I did.


ARIAS: The simple answer is that he attacked me.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: A stunning admission, disturbing revelations -- fiery confrontations in court.


MARTINEZ: How it is that you`re not remembering what you`re saying?

ARIAS: Because you`re making my brain scramble.

MARTINEZ: I`m again making your brain scramble. So in this particular case the problem is not you, it`s the questions being posed by the prosecutor, right?

ARIAS: No not the questions.

MARTINEZ: Yes or no? Yes or no?

ARIAS: I was saying no and you interrupted me.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: And then finally the last words.


MARTINEZ: The truest words that are spoken in this case and they are spoken by Mr. Alexander even though he`s not here through his writing.

"You, Jodi Arias, are the worst thing that ever happened to me."

Is there any doubt that that`s the truth?

Do we need to look at the pictures? His gashed throat? Do we need to look at the sort of frog-like state that she left him in, all crumbled up in that shower? Or do we need to look at his face where she put that bullet in his right temple to know that what he says there is true, "You are the worst thing that ever happened to me."

He`s telling her enough is enough. Yes, he`s angry -- absolutely angry. After everything that she has done to him and you`ve seen the manipulation as she`s tried to manipulate you with what she has told you, although she tells you that, well he kind of was the person that pushed her in this relationship and that he was the individual that somehow was this person who was so sexually interested in her and oh, by the way she wasn`t, it`s not her fault that any of this happened. Of course none of it is her fault.

It never occurred to her in the lexicon of the English language there`s a word. It`s called "no" that you can use when you don`t want to do something. And yet you can then take the witness stand however and say "Well I do know that word but I just chose not to use it." But it`s not her fault, again it`s not her fault. It`s Mr. Alexander`s fault for being interested in her don`t you see? Can`t you all see based on those days and days that she was on that witness stand that it isn`t her fault?


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Not her fault. That`s exactly what Jodi`s defense attorney Kirk Nurmi wanted to show to the jury in his final effort to save her.


NURMI: You may fear how your verdict will be received by those who loved Travis Alexander, by those who loved Jodi Arias or by the world at large. Each and every one of you are here because all the parties involved believe that you are the type of people that would have the courage of your convictions to stand by your personal belief against whatever pressures you may feel.

Each one of you is entitled to deliver your verdict to this courtroom. You do not have to succumb to the pressure of a fellow juror who may not agree with you. You can have the courage of your conviction to deliver your own verdict.

Couldn`t it also be that after everything, everything they went through in that relationship, that she threw him down again, that she did grab for the gun to defend herself, that after that she simply snapped. She may not know it. But she may very well have snapped -- out of control, sudden heat of passion. We`ve been through so much and look what happened now. If Miss Arias is guilty of any crime at all, it is the crime of manslaughter and nothing more.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: And then maybe the most astonishing admission of all.


NURMI: It`s not even about whether or not you like Jodi Arias. Nine days out of ten I don`t like Jodi Arias.

MARTINEZ: Objection.

SHERRY STEPHENS, PRESIDING JUDGE: Sustained. The jury is directed to disregard the last statement.

NURMI: But that doesn`t matter. Your liking her or not liking her doesn`t objectively assess the evidence.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: But for the prosecutor, Juan Martinez in the end there was nothing but evidence, a mountain of it and it all pointed to one person, Jodi Arias.


MARTINEZ: Goes down, he collapses then. She catches up to him, and goes for the throat. And if you want to believe her, that she doesn`t remember anything, doesn`t know anything that is going on, why then, why then if she really doesn`t know what is going on and can`t remember why is she so directed at a place where she and certainly cause death?

If she really didn`t know what was going on, if it was just really passion, if it was just the heat of passion then you wouldn`t have a directed hit to somewhere that was going to kill, it would have dispersed all over the place. But when he goes down, there is a direct strike to his neck, which is an indication of somebody who is thinking this person is not going to live. He may get away from me in the shower, he may get away from me all the way to the sink, and he may stumble his way down that hallway, but you know? I caught him.

What does she do? She believes only certain images. It is not like all of the images are deleted. This shows somebody who is thinking, well,

I don`t want to delete the one of his dog, or this other one. I will delete this people -- the only one that hurt me. And that is directed behavior by somebody who claims to have dissociative amnesia. Dissociative amnesia -- you heard what the definition of that was. Or is it a fog?

Even a San Franciscan fog, if such a thing existed wouldn`t be so cloudy to account for this kind of behavior.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Jodi`s famous fog. Jodi killed Travis Alexander and now she found herself fighting for her own life. How would the jury decide?


STEPHENS: Ladies and gentlemen, I understand you have reached a verdict?




VELEZ-MITCHELL: I`m here with some members of the sheriff response team, and look, they`re dressed to the nine`s, prepared for anything. And right on the other side is the cell that is the same size and layout as the cell that Jodi Arias is in right now. And you see it sort of decorated with the kind of things that a prisoner would have, magazines, and there are little knickknacks, things that they can hold onto, but nothing that they can use to hurt themselves or others.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: For nearly five years, Jodi Arias called this Phoenix jail cell home. And after five months of lurid and graphic testimony about sex and lies and killing, the jury convicted Jodi Arias of the premeditated murder of Travis Alexander. And that same jury would quickly deem his murder to be excessively cruel, which would make Jodi Arias eligible for death by lethal injection.

Travis`s sister and brother made heart-wrenching and passionate pleas for the jury to end their pain by giving Jodi the ultimate punishment.


STEPHEN ALEXANDER, BROTHER OF TRAVIS ALEXANDER: I cannot sleep alone in the dark anymore. I`ve had dreams of my brother -- all curled up in the shower, thrown in there, left to rot for days, all alone. I don`t want these nightmares anymore. I don`t want to have to see my brother`s murderer anymore.

SAMANTHA ALEXANDER, SISTER OF TRAVIS ALEXANDER: Our lives will never be the same. We can never get him back. We are so grateful for our wonderful brother, and we feel so lucky and blessed for the time we had with Travis however short-lived. We would give anything to have him back -

- anything.

MARTINEZ: And that is the reason that these --


VELEZ-MITCHELL: And the prosecutor told the jury they had no other true option than to send Jodi to death row.


MARTINEZ: All of these items that are being presented to you, every single one of them is nothing more than the defendant`s statement attempting to gain sympathy. And in view of the fact that there are no mitigating circumstances in this case, the only appropriate sentence based on what the jury instructions tell you that you should do is death.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: And with that, the defense team made their final plea to spare Jodi`s life, but the only person who spoke up for Jodi was Jodi.


ARIAS: This is the worst mistake of my life. It is the worst thing I have ever done. It is the worst thing I ever could have seen myself doing.

In fact I couldn`t have seen myself doing it. To this day I could hardly believe I was capable of such violence, but I know that I was. And for that I`m going to be sorry for the rest of my life, probably longer.

I would like to implement a recycling program. I would like to start a book club or reading group.

My hair was past my waist and I donated it to "Locks of Love", which creates wigs for cancer patients who lost their hair.

Additionally, I`ve designed a T-shirt. This is the T-shirt, which 100 percent of the proceeds go to support nonprofit organizations which also assist other victims of domestic violence.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: A survivor shirt for victims of abuse? Was that one final attempt to ruin Travis Alexander`s reputation? Jodi`s other main argument was "Spare me for my family`s sake."


ARIAS: As I stand here now I can`t ask you to sentence me to death because of them. Asking for death is tantamount to suicide. Either way,

I`m going to spend the rest of my life in prison. It will either be shortened or not. If it is shortened the people who will hurt the most are my family. I`m asking you please, please, don`t do that to them. I have already hurt them so badly along with so many other people.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: And the final words the jury heard from either side?


JENNIFER WILLMOTT, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: We are asking you to find that Jodi`s life is worth saving and to have the ability to understand that despite her very worst deed you can still show mercy and find that she still has value in her life. And sentence her to a term of life in prison.

MARTINEZ: Only thing that you can do based on the mitigating circumstances and their lack of, is to return a verdict of death. Thank you.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Final words, and then Jodi`s life was in the hands of the jury. But the trial was far from over.


STEPHENS: I have received your note indicating that you are unable to come to a unanimous decision. At this time please go back to the jury room and continue deliberating. You are excused.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: And with that, the jury went back to deliberate one final time. But what happened next nobody could have expected.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We, the jury, duly impaneled and sworn in the above entitled action, upon our oaths, unanimously find, having considered all of the facts and circumstances, that the defendant should be sentenced -- no unanimous agreement -- signed, Foreperson.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: A hung jury, for Jodi Arias, no final answers. And for the Alexanders -- more frustration and anguish to endure. At this

stage we still don`t know if Jodi will pay the ultimate price for slaughtering Travis. Leaving some to wonder is justice delayed, justice denied?

I`m Jane Velez-Mitchell. Good night.


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Jesse Matthew charged with abduction

JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST: Tonight, breaking news as the man cops believe kidnapped 18-year-old Hannah Graham is hauled into court in shackles after being captured in Texas, over 1,000 miles from the scene of the pretty co-ed`s disappearance.

Now cops prepare to shift Jesse Matthew back to Virginia, but police admit just a little while ago at a news conference, despite thousands of tips, despite days of frantic searching, they have no clear where Hannah is, and their suspect isn`t talking.

Good evening. I`m Jane Velez-Mitchell coming to you live.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jesse Matthew is in custody in Galveston, Texas.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Jesse Leroy Matthew Jr. is now in custody, charged with abducting missing UVA student Hannah Graham.

JOHN GRAHAM, FATHER OF HANNAH: She`s our only daughter. All we want to do now is to bring Hannah home safely. Please, please help us.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Just yesterday, police finally nabbed Matthew, a 32- year-old hospital nursing assistant, while he was camping on a beach at Galveston, Texas, a full 1,300 miles from where police say he abducted University of Virginia sophomore Hannah Graham with the intent to defile, meaning with the intent to commit some sort of unlawful sexual activity.

The 18-year-old sophomore was last seen almost two weeks ago. Her friends say she left the party intoxicated and on foot. Hannah was caught by several surveillance cameras walking around Charlottesville before police believe she and Matthew got drinks together and then she vanished into thin air.

Police have now charged Matthew with kidnapping and are holding him with no bond. They expect to extradite him from Texas and back to Virginia tomorrow. Now during his court appearance today, the alleged kidnapper spoke to the judge. Listen.




MATTHEW: Well, they took all my clothes, and they got me sleeping with an alarm (ph) thing. I almost feel like I`m a -- I should be able to have some kind of clothes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You appear to me to be dressed in a jumpsuit.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Clothes? That`s his concern? Matthew was very chatty about clothes, but he has not said a word about Hannah, though cops say he was the last one seen with her. She has been missing for 13 days now. Are cops running out of time?

And this just breaking. Does Matthew have an accusation in his past? We`re going to get to that.

Call me: 1-877-JVM-SAYS, 1-877-586-7297. And please join the conversation. Go to my Facebook page, Jane Velez-Mitchell Facebook, or talk to me on Twitter; @JVM is my handle.

Our expert Lion`s Den panel is fired up, and they are ready to debate. But first, straight out to CNN correspondent Erin McPike.

Erin, you were on the ground in Charlottesville. You were at the news conference held a couple of hours ago. Tell us the most crucial information that cops revealed.

ERIN MCPIKE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, first, we know that Jesse Matthew is coming back to Virginia, where he will be charged with abduction and the intent to defile. If convicted, he could face a life in prison.

Now, as far as where Hannah Graham is, as you mentioned, cops have no idea. And they are asking residents here to search and re-search their property, check wildlife cameras, if they have that on large plots of land here. He re-described what she was wearing that night, that she had an iPhone 5 with a pink case. He was saying that if anyone sees anything like that, they shouldn`t touch it; they should call police immediately.

If they see any tire tracks that they hasn`t seen before, he wants people to call police for that, as well. Because they have no indication of where she is, and they need every clue possible in order to shrink down the time from when she first disappeared to when they first learned of this.

They`re -- they`re in a bad place in terms of finding her. They still have no idea.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, police say they`re looking for any clues about remote areas, as you mentioned, farmland that Matthew liked to visit.

Listen to this.


CHIEF TIMOTHY LONGO, CHARLOTTESVILLE POLICE: Lots of people know Jesse. They know his habits; they know his customs; they know who he is.

The things he liked to do. Someone was talking, and they mentioned that Jesse liked to fish. Well, where did he like to fish? Where did he go

fishing? Was there a particular pond, a particular farm, a particular location that he was comfortable with?


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now, going back to you, Erin, for a second. Obviously, he fled from Charlottesville, Virginia, all the way to Galveston, Texas, but despite that, they believe that Hannah is somewhere in the Charlottesville area or the surrounding nine counties. Do you have any idea why they believe that?

MCPIKE: No, they don`t. They just simply said that they have no reason to believe that she is in Texas. And they essentially said they knew he was on his way to Texas, was traveling, was in Texas but didn`t disclose that information because they were trying to find a link. But they have no idea why he chose Galveston, Texas. There isn`t really any link there.

Now, I will also tell you that they spoke to Jesse Matthew twice before. They spoke to him after they searched his apartment and car and again the following day -- this is last Saturday, when they asked him to come in, and he asked for an attorney. He later left the police station with his mother, went to his grandmother`s house and was seen driving recklessly away. But the cops have spoken to him before.

From his car and from his apartment, they got some pieces of evidence. They took away some bags of materials that they had forensics testing done on. It was after that point that they were able to issue a warrant for his arrest. They will not talk about what the evidence is or if it`s really the clinching factor, though it seems that that is the case. And the police chief said today that he wouldn`t talk about it, because it would be prejudicial, but it will be important at the time of the trial.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: So what I`m hearing from you is that they don`t think that whatever he did with Hannah, he took her on his road trip from Virginia to Galveston, Texas, presumably to try to get out of the country via Mexico and stopping at a beach along the way because he was tired, and that`s where he was nabbed, thanks to a deputy that had some eagle eyes and a tipster.

So they believe whatever he did with Hannah, he did before he went on that road trip to flee. And there`s a narrow window of time for that, which leaves them to believe that the radius in which he could have left her is somewhere in the general vicinity. Is that basically a good summary or not?

MCPIKE: That`s correct. And what they are trying to do is talk to anyone who may have seen or had contact with Matthew in the time after that Friday night appearance at the bar. They want to shrink the time from when he was last seen with Hannah to when he was discovered. They want to talkto everyone that he came in contact with, get to know his habits. He liked to fish. As you played that clip there, they want to see where he fished,where he would go to think, where he could have gone, because they hope that would lead, then, to Hannah.

But really, they`re focused on the Charlottesville area and the nine surrounding counties, and talking about farmland or any sort of rural tract of land. That`s where the search is focused right now. So you`re correct in stating that.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Well, thank you so much for that report, Erin McPike on the ground in Charlottesville.

Now there`s more breaking news that we can tell you. This is just breaking as we speak with CNN, confirming some aspects of this new development that concerns this suspect, Jesse Matthew`s past.

At the news conference today, a reporter asked the police chief about Matthew`s past, including allegations of a past alleged sexual assault.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: As part of your investigation looking into Matthew`s criminal history is there anything about that you can share?

We`re hearing lots of discussions of allegations of sexual assault, any of that you can talk to us and share with us?

LONGO: I`m precluded from speaking to his prior criminal history.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: OK. Now, he can`t say anything about it, but CNN has just confirmed that Jesse Matthew, this suspect, was investigated for an alleged sexual assault at Liberty University in 2002. And that`s where he was a football player. Matthew said that the alleged victim consented, and that the alleged victim did not go forward with the investigation. He was not charged. There were no charges ever filed, because the commonwealth attorney of Virginia says there was not enough evidence. So I want to go straight out to a very special exclusive guest right now, former football captain of the team who played football with this suspect, Jesse Matthew, who was known, I believe, as L.J.

Thank you for joining us. May I call you William or Bill?


VELEZ-MITCHELL: OK, William. Thank you for joining us. Now you played with Jesse Matthew, known as L.J., who friends call L.J., for two years before he left the team. And you knew about this controversy that he got into. What is your understanding of what went on?

CALLER: Well, my understanding was that it came from the standpoint of the coaches informing us of why L.J. was being put off the team and then later being put out of school. We were told that he was engaging in sexual activities with another female student. Therefore, the administration was made aware of it. Engaging in those type of activities were against the school rules. And those were offenses that would allow an athlete to be either be taken off scholarship and put out of school.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Was it your understanding that it was unwanted sexual activity or that it was consensual?

HAITH: You know, I would be really guessing at that point. And this is what I mean. I would think that it was consensual, for the simple fact that no police came and arrested L.J. No one kicked down his door. It was just a simple administrative matter. And so I would think that it was consensual.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: But it was Jesse Matthew who said the alleged victim consented, and the alleged victim did not go forward with the investigation, no charges were filed. But there was an allegation that there was an unwanted sexual incident involving this man, who is now accused of abducting the young lady who was seen here on-screen.

Now, when you heard -- given everything that you went through with L.J. back during this controversy, scandal, what have you, when you heard,when you found out your former teammate was accused of abduction with the intent to defile of a young woman, who is still missing and has not been found despite 13 days of frantic searching, what was your initial reaction?

HAITH: Well, my initial reaction, the first thing that came to mind was the situation back at Liberty, back then. I don`t know his name came up, so I immediately thought about that. So that was -- that was the first thing that came to my mind.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And did it -- so what was the thought?

HAITH: The thought was that could he -- is he capable of doing something like that? And, you know, I just wasn`t sure. The L.J. that I had known was -- seemed to be a little -- a subtle person. He really didn`t seem to bother too many people. He didn`t seem to be too aggressive. And so therefore, it just ran across my mind: "Wow, could he do this?"

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now, he seems to have a lot of roots in the community. Just hours before he allegedly abducted Hannah, you see him playing as an assistant football coach at a private school game. And this video shows somebody who`s very, very much a part of the community, not a loner. He volunteered as an assistant football coach, and he worked at a hospital as a nursing assistant. And so do you think he has like -- if indeed he`s responsible for this and if indeed whatever happened is back at school is what the young lady, who is anonymous claims, as opposed to what he claims, and we have to stress no charges were ever filed.

But given all that, do you think it`s possible, if indeed he`s responsible for what happened to Hannah Graham, that he`s living some kind of double life or he has two different personalities?

HAITH: You know, I think I would want to be careful with saying that it`s possible, because I have known L.J. for a long time. He`s not an immediate friend. He was a teammate. And I had seen -- I had never seen him get involved in situations like this.

You know, that doesn`t say that doesn`t -- you know, I don`t want to say that it`s not possible. We don`t know what skeletons people have in their closet, so I just hope that, you know, that both families can come away with this with a win. I would hope that, you know, Hannah could be found, and I would hope L.J. didn`t play part in this.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Let me ask you one last quick question, William. Did he ever say anything that would give you an indication that he had an odd relationship with women, that he was sexually obsessed or had any violent tendencies whatsoever? Did you ever get that kind of feel from him? CALLER: You know, L.J. seemed to always kind of have a small-figured female around. You know, he had never mentioned any type of sexual frustration or any type of harm he wanted to do to a female, not that I`m aware of. But, again, you know, you just never know what -- what a person is capable of.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: William Haith, thank you so much for joining us to try to give us some insight into this horror story. Imagine what Hannah`s parents are going through tonight. Yes, they found a suspect, but he`s not talking; and they still don`t know where his daughter is.

On the other side of the break we`re going to bring in our Lion`s Den panel and ask them, what can cops do to put pressure on this man, this suspect, to tell everything he knows? To start talking?


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: To kill or hurt somebody, that`s not my son.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: For a big man, he`s as gentle as they come.




MATTHEW: Sir, I`ve got a question for you.


MATTHEW: They took all my clothes and they got me sleeping on an alarm (ph) thing. I almost feel like I`m a -- I should be able to have some kind of clothes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You appear to me to be dressed in a jumpsuit.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Thirty-two-year-old Jesse Matthew, a suspect in the abduction of Hannah Graham, concerned about his clothing.

Simone Bienne, behavior expert, we`re going to do a round-robin with our panel. But I want to start with you. Is there a disconnect there to be concerned about clothing when the entire country is staring at him, thinking "You may know -- you allegedly know where Hannah is, and you`re not talking"?

SIMONE BIENNE, BEHAVIOR EXPERT: Oh, yes. I mean, look at him. He`s trying to paint himself as the victim here and put himself, rather beautifully and narcissistically, above the law. "Oh, my goodness, I mean, I`m not dressed properly. They haven`t brought me my clothes." I mean, he is painting himself as the victim. And that really concerns me, coupled with the fact that he`s not talking, I just do not feel good about this, Jane.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And then, J. Wyndal Gordon, you heard that there was an accusation in his past from 2002, that he forced himself on a woman in college situation. No charges ever filed. He claimed it was consensual. The prosecutor said they didn`t have evidence to proceed. But is there a pattern here?

J. WYNDAL GORDON, ATTORNEY: I say not. And I didn`t get the understanding that he forced himself on a woman. And my understanding that

it was a consensual arrangement and there was no prosecution of the matter.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: That`s what he says. But there was an investigation into an allegation of sexual assault.

GORDON: Well, if a woman says he forced himself on her, I mean, that`s enough to get the wheels of justice turning. So evidently, there

must have been a breakdown with that. So I put zero -- zero credibility with that -- with that allegation.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Does our panel agree with that? Evangeline Gomez?

EVANGELINE GOMEZ, ATTORNEY: This is Liberty University. It`s a very Christian university. Did they maybe have a chastity code that was

violated because someone engaged in sexual relations with another student, two students engaged in it? I`m not exactly sure, but perhaps that was the

situation here.

Given what his friend said and given what`s out in the media, they seem to be two different accounts. So I`ll have to agree with the person

who spoke before.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Sierra Elizabeth, attorney.

SIERRA ELIZABETH, ATTORNEY: I think I disagree. Because it`s certainly relevant that he was kicked out of school for having a sexual

relationship or encounter with someone. It must have been a pretty grave situation the school would kick him out for that reason.

And this guy does not look credible right now. I mean, he`s accused of this and then he flees? He leaves Charlottesville and goes all the way

to Texas? I mean, this guy doesn`t look like the great Samaritan that you`re pointing him out to be.

GORDON: What is it about him that makes him look incredible? You don`t know anything about him.


GOMEZ: We can`t -- we can`t look at somebody and say they`re guilty because they look a certain way.


GORDON: What is it about him that makes him look...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: One at a time, please. Go ahead.

GOMEZ: It`s inappropriate to say. You don`t look at someone...

GORDON: Very inappropriate.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Excuse me, Evangeline. It`s called consciousness of guilt. Why would he flew 1,300 miles when he...

GOMEZ: I don`t know.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Excuse me. Let me just say this: if you have nothing to hide -- and I`m not convicting him. He deserves his day in court. But

he was, according to witnesses, the last person who was with Hannah Graham before she vanished off the face of the earth as the police chief so aptly

put it. Now, if he did nothing wrong, why not tell them, "Hey, we had a drink. I got in my car. She went on her merry way"?

GORDON: I can answer that. I can answer that. Let me answer that.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Go ahead, J. Wyndal.

GORDON: I`ll answer that. Because sometimes when you go into the police department to give help they end up turning the tables on you. Once

he realized that the focus was on him instead of the information he was trying to provide, he shut it down and he wisely did so. He requested an

attorney, and he shut it all down.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: And then he went on the -- excuse me, hold on. Then he went on the run for 1,300 miles. He took off at a high rate of speed.

GORDON: Doesn`t seem like he went on the run. I mean, his whole behavior is consistent...


GORDON: ... with "Hey, I told you guys I was going to Galveston."


GORDON: His behavior was consistent with "Hey, I told you guys I was going to Galveston."


GORDON: "Why do you make it like it`s some big surprise?"

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Are you kidding?

GORDON: That`s why he`s concerned about his clothes. He like, "Look, y`all are acting like I tried to run away from you. Y`all took my clothes.

You took everything from me. And it`s not right." So he`s protesting that.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: One at a time. All right, J., you made your point, J. Wyndal. Let`s let other people speak. Because this was not a road trip

for vacation purposes. There was a warrant for his arrest. There was a poster, which I`m looking for right now, which I will hold up, seeking him.

And therefore, this was not him going on vacation. He was fleeing. He took off and lost the cops tailing him, took off at a high rate of speed.

There`s the wanted poster.

GORDON: I don`t believe that either.

GOMEZ: Perhaps the cops were following him, as opposed to chasing him because he was fleeing. I mean, that typically happens in these types of



GOMEZ: The information that`s been presented in the media is entirely different than what factually occurred.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Evangeline, hold on a second. Hold on a second. You know what? We`ve got to go back to planet earth here. Sierra Elizabeth,

take it away.

ELIZABETH: When the police are looking for you, you don`t leave your home, your job, your family, your responsibilities because if you do,

they`re going to think you`re guilty. Hello.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. I think you make a very good point, Sierra Elizabeth. And you add to that right now, he is, according to the police

chief, still not speaking. He has invoked his right to remain silent. He has an attorney and he is not speaking. So on the other side of the break,

what can cops do to make him talk? Stay right there.


GRAHAM: This is every parent`s worst nightmare. I`m certain that everybody in this room and those watching knows that what happened to

Hannah could happen to their child.




UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Have you had an opportunity to talk to Matthew?

LONGO: As you know, he invoked his right to remain silent and his right to counsel. We cannot re-approach him until such time as he chooses



VELEZ-MITCHELL: I want to ask my panel what they can do to get this suspect, Jesse Matthew, to talk. This is a race against time. This young

woman, Hannah Graham, has been missing for 13 days now.

But first I want to go to the very patient Kate, Pennsylvania -- Kate, what do you have to say?

KATE, PENNSYLVANIA (via telephone): Yes, hi, Jane. Thanks for taking my call.


KATE: We always enjoy your show.


KATE: The reports are from the witnesses in the bar where this man bought Hannah her last drink, are that when they were getting ready to

leave, she couldn`t even walk out on her own. So I`m wondering if he used rohypnol (ph) on her. And the reason I say that also is the charges from

the police are so unusual, with the intent to defile. So I`m wondering if they found rohypnol either in his apartment, in his vehicle? It doesn`t

make sense.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Kate, that`s a very good question. We do not know what they found. We knew they took three bags out of his apartment. They

tested his car. They`re doing forensic tests to find DNA and blood and hair and fibers and they`re not revealing what they found yet. So

essentially we don`t know. We do know she was intoxicated.

I want to go to the Evangeline Gomez, criminal defense attorney, what can they do to get him to talk. Now, we hope that she`s alive but

obviously we have to consider the possibility that she`s deceased.

EVANGELINE GOMEZ, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Yes, either way, under Virginia state law, you would get a death penalty if you`re charged with

first-degree murder and convicted. They can remove the death penalty. Say look, we`ll remove that off the table if you talk to us, assuming that he`s

the person who is responsible. If you know anybody who`s responsible, they can downgrade the charges, remove the charges that he has. Obviously, he`s

also concerned about his freedom.

So they`re going to do everything they can to get him to talk. She may be alive, he may be able to direct or may know someone who can direct

them to where she is if she`s in live. Or in the event -- unfortunate event that she`s deceased, also where her body may be. And for her

parents, that would be closure for them.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. Of course, closure.

When do you think, Sierra Elizabeth, they might start that? Because they seem to indicate he`s he invoked his right to silence -- almost like

we can`t even approach him to ask him if he wants to talk again.

SIERRA ELIZABETH, ATTORNEY: They have to start that right away. They need to contact his attorney ASAP because, you know, even if she -- if

she`s not alive, if she`s dead, I don`t know why they think that they can only search the Charlottesville area and the surrounding counties. She

might be anywhere between Charlottesville to Texas -- and anywhere in between. So it`s absolutely critical that they talk to his lawyer

immediately and get this case resolved not only for the family but for all of us sitting here watching this drama unfold.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I pray that she`s alive. I pray -- you know, we`ve seen with the Cleveland house of horrors and with Elizabeth Smart that

women and girls do turn up. I pray that. But if not, there`s also the question of, you know, deterioration of evidence we have to worry about.

My heart again goes out to the family. We`re going to stay on top of this story -- developments every single day.

Next, unbelievable, shocking, shocking, shocking dash cam video -- a trooper pulls a guy over claiming he`s not wearing a seatbelt and then

shoots him. It`s unbelievable. What was this cop thinking?


SEAN GROUBERT, SC STATE TROOPER: May I have your license, please. Your license, please.

Get out of the car. Get out of the car.

Get on the ground. Get on the ground.



VELEZ-MITCHELL: In tonight`s "Naked Truth", this is truly shocking video. I just couldn`t believe it when I saw it. We`re going to show it

to you in a second. A South Carolina state trooper opens fire on an unarmed man during a very routine traffic stop. Trooper Sean Groubert

pulled over 35-year-old Levar Jones on the grounds he thought the driver wasn`t wearing a seatbelt and then this happened. Watch. I have to warn

you, it`s disturbing.


GROUBERT: May I see your license, please?

Get out of the car. Get out of the car.

Get on the ground. Get on the ground.

LEVAR JONES: I just grabbed my license. You said get my license. I grabbed my license, right there. That`s my license right there.

GROUBERT: Put your hands behind your back. Put your hands behind your back.

JONES: What did I do, sir?

GROUBERT: Are you hit?

JONES: I think so. I can`t feel my leg. I don`t know what happened. I just grabbed my license.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: The trooper hit him four times. Once in the leg -- fortunately he survived. The trooper has been fired, he`s charged with

assault and battery. He`s 31. He could do 20 years behind bars.

Straight out to my "Naked Truth" -- J. Wyndal Gordon, what the hell? I mean this makes absolutely no sense from my perspective. Obviously it`s

a white state trooper, an African-American driver. Do you think this could have been racial profiling from the start?

J. WYNDAL GORDON, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: I think this is another example of the war on black America. That`s what I`m going to call it.

Law enforcement seems to have declared war on black America. They`re beating our women, they`re killing our men. They`re killing our children.

And it`s -- I`m tired of. I`m utterly sick of it.

There was no reason whatsoever for this trooper to even pull out his service weapon much less to discharge it. And I`m just sick of these cases

day after day a day. Finally, this one is being charged without taking months and months to place him under arrest. And hopefully he will meet

justice the same as he attempted to dispense his injustice.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, to me, what doesn`t make sense is he seemed to be complying, this guy, with the officer`s orders. You show me your

license --

GORDON: Absolutely.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: -- ok, I`m going. So here`s the explanation. Let`s listen and then we`re going to debate it.

JONES: Why did you shoot me?

GROUBERT: Well, you dove head first back into your car and then jumped back out. I`m telling you to get out of your car.

JONES: I`m sorry. I didn`t hear two words --


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Ok, Stan Hayes, firearms and combat instructor, he says, show me your license, the guy turns around to grab the license and

then he shoots him. Is there any explanation for this?

STAN HAYES, FIREARMS AND COMBAT INSTRUCTOR: I mean other than the cop just being a complete moron, I can`t think of one at all. It just -- you

know, let me back up. Body alarm responses is an incredible physiological change that takes place but the reality is he shot this guy when the guy

turned around and was facing him. The guy was actually facing him with his hands in clear view and he showed that he had nothing in his hands. Then

the officer starts firing and fires four shots into him.

So there`s no reason for this at all. And let`s be clear. He didn`t pull this guy over. If you look at the beginning of the video, he was

sitting behind the building and he proceeded to leave the parking area and he was completely facing the trash area -- the trash collection area behind

Circle K. All right.

I did some digging and I was able to pull up a Google Maps and identify that this trash area was behind Circle K. This guy never even

left the parking lot of Circle K. He backs up, does a K turn and approaches the driver. All right. In South Carolina --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: So what you`re saying essentially is that you don`t think he saw his seatbelt off and in fact, gee, I`m going to rethink this

one, but me, like a lot of people when I`m pulling into a parking lot, I`m usually in a hurry, I take my seatbelt off as I`m pulling in.

Was the stop questionable to begin with? Let`s watch this aspect. This is fascinating.


GROUBERT: May I see your license, please?

Get out of the car. Get out of the car.

JONES: Why were you pulling me over, I just pulled in --

GROUBERT: A seatbelt violation sir.

JONES: Seatbelt? I just pulled it off right there at the corner to pull in the gas station.

GROUBERT: I`ve got help coming to you, ok? I`ve got help coming to you.

JONES: Why was I shot? All I did was reach for my license. I`m coming from work.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Sierra Elizabeth, this would be almost funny if it weren`t so tragic that this guy ends up shot. Luckily he`s going to

survive. But I mean people do take their -- go ahead.

ELIZABETH: Jane, I`m actually disappointed at the prosecutors here for only charging this officer with aggravated assault and battery. They

should have charged him, in South Carolina, with assault with the intent to kill because this looks like a targeted approach on this man. It`s totally

out of character.

The fact that the police department fired him basically on the spot is so telling. And this guy -- he intended to kill his man.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Jackie -- YackieJackie, the hashtag hub, very quickly, what are people saying?

JACKIE TAURIANEN, HLN PRODUCER: Jane, you know what -- cops released this video yesterday but it started going absolutely viral first thing this

morning. A few of the comments I`m seeing. Miss T says, "Kudos to the South Carolina Police Department for doing the right thing and firing Sean

Groubert for his blatantly unnecessary use of force."

Nikael says, "There needs to be a better screening process for the people we choose to protect and serve citizens."

Carol says "I thought he was reaching for a weapon and I bet that`s what the officer thought, too."

Ray Lee says, "Mark my words the only reason Sean Groubert is getting in trouble is because Levar Jones didn`t die and can defend himself



VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, I`ve got to say this. The attorney for this guy is invited on any time. But it seems like some people think maybe he

thought he was reaching for a weapon. I`m sorry. I`m sorry. This was an alleged seatbelt violation? That guy`s going to make a lot of money, the

guy who was shot, I predict. He`s going to make a million at least.

Next, Kim Kardashian gets stuck in the middle of a melee in Paris you will not believe.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tyson Toussant (ph) is reincarnating dead plastic.

TYSON TOUSSANT, FOUNDER, BIONIC YARN: Most people aren`t educated enough to feel the burden that we`re putting on the environment. So you

kind of have to like slip the medicine in with your ice cream.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: That medicine is thread, he calls it bionic yarn. Up to 45 percent of this yarn comes from plastic bottles and it can be used in

anything from camping gear to jeans to even the shoes on your feet.

This summer alone, more than 70 tons of recycled plastic has been used in these bionic products, even big name products like the Gap and

Timberland are on board.

TOUSSANT: Our approach to this was how do we make this appealing to the people who aren`t really thinking about it?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Grammy winning artist Pharrell Williams happened to be one of those people. He`s now Bionic`s creative director, creating

designs for G Star, Montclair and Adidas.

TOUSSANT: Farrell made a giant bucket hat, he made skateboarding an urban thing. And it`s just like the king of the outsiders comes and he`s

like the alternative is now the standard.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Toussant hopes Bionic will encourage more people to be socially responsible in what they choose to buy.

TOUSSANT: Over time you reveal what the purchases have done to let them know if you guys have been helping the environment.




VELEZ-MITCHELL: Kimye crisis -- Kim Kardashian on her way to a Paris fashion week event. The reality star, hubby Kanye West and mamager Kris

Jenner pull up to this mob scene. Out of nowhere, a man grabs hold of Kim Kardashian`s legs and tried to tackle her to the ground. Security jumped

the whacko and subdued him. Luckily, they did that before Kanye could come to Kim`s rescue. Who knows what would have happened.

TMZ reporting the attacker maybe an infamous prankster known for harassing celebrities. That name is Vitalii Sediuk, he crawled under

actress America Ferraro`s gown at a premiere. He also grabbed Bradley Cooper by the legs at an award ceremony. He was indicted in May for

charges of assault and battery after he did something similar to Brad Pitt. And he got a slap on the wrist -- community service.

Now, he has managed apparently to gain access to these exclusive events using press credentials from a former employer. We tried to reach

him for comment.

Straight out to the "Lion`s Den", Simone Bienne, we need a behavior expert. If it is this guy, what it his deal? What is his problem?

SIMONE BIENNE, BEHAVIOR EXPERT: I think he has got a huge problem. Number one he`s got absolutely no talent because at least if you`re looking

at Ali G when he pranked celebrities, there`s some kind of comedy element. There`s some kind of brain being used. But this guy, I`m sorry, I`ve got

to say is really annoying and he`s creepy.

What he did to Brad Pitt, Bradley Cooper, I think he even tried to kiss Will Smith and Will Smith got rapped on the knuckles because he tried

-- he slapped the guy. He has got a real issue and I think he should be --


VELEZ-MITCHELL: What is that issue? What is that issue? That`s what I don`t -- I don`t really -- he`s not a stalker per se -- he`s not like

following -- what?

BIENNE: It`s the attention. It`s the fame. Look how he is a world- wide sensation. The guy has got a publicist. They guy has got an attorney. Well, obviously he needs an attorney. This guy --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: He needs a psychiatrist.

BIENNE: He does. It is fame by association isn`t it? The whole world is looking at him. And that is -- you know, that is wonderful for


VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. We`re going to show it again.

ELIZABETH: He needs to be banned from all of these events. How does he still get in, Jane? How does he get --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, look at the map -- we got to show it again. Let`s show it again. As you listen to it, there we go. Let`s just play



VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. So how did he get in? Get into what? This is like being on the IRT subway at rush hour. There`s no getting in

here. I have to say something Sierra. It`s a good thing Kanye who got out on the other side, if he had gotten on the same side that guy might have

been, you know, six feet under right.

ELIZABETH: Yes, I agree with you Jane. I mean we all know Kanye is crazy so if he would have been on that side it would have been an even

bigger deal. But, you know, think what you might of Kim K, look what she has to deal with on a daily basis. I mean look at this.


ELIZABETH: I know people -- I love Kim K. I do, I have to admit. But look what she has to deal with. It`s so unfortunate. It really is

unfortunate Jane. You don`t want anyone grabbing your legs. You don`t want somebody grabbing your leg.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I don`t want anyone grabbing my leg or doing anything to my leg if you know what I mean. Well, maybe some people. But

seriously, you have to wonder if she brings it on herself. She said she wanted her privacy and she had her baby. And then she did that very sexual

video where she and Kanye were on the motorcycle and they looked like they were having you know what --

ELIZABETH: I don`t believe you Jane. I don`t believe you.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: You know. There it is.

BIENNE: I`ve got to tell you she was wearing fur and thank goodness so she is used to this. Look, she has more money than I`m sure you, me,

all three of us would ever earn in our lifetime. She needs better bodyguards. That`s what she needs.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: You know what -- listen, I agree with you. Do not wear fur Kim or Kanye. That also opens you up to criticism. I just wanted

an excuse to play that video because I think it`s really hot but in kind of a silly, goofy way.

Stay right there. We`re going to be back. We`re going to play it again because you just can`t see it enough can you?


VELEZ-MITCHELL: And there it goes. She gets out of the car and mamager Kris Jenner is right there.

Stop it. Stop it. Oh, my gosh. It`s not funny. I`m sure it was very, very scary. For some reason it tickled my funny bone. I apologize.

It`s not funny.

Debbie, California. Am I being inappropriate? Debbie, California.

DEBBIE, CALIFORNIA (via telephone): Hi.


DEBBIE: How are you guys? I love you, Jane.


DEBBIE: I just wanted to say sometimes I wonder if they go out and pay people to do things like this.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, I didn`t say it. You may possibly think so but I couldn`t possibly comment. That`s from the original "House of Cards".

Nancy is next.